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From:
Gonzi Merchan
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Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:37:14 -0700
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Re: (idm) [review] Bjrk - Homogenic (reality check)
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quoted 2 lines but don't be so fucking naive to believe that> but don't be so fucking naive to believe that > there's Howie B or Mark Bell or friggin Plaid that's doing the work here.
Aren't they? I just call them as I see them - look at the credits. No, I don't have Homogenic but I do have a copy of post here. Of the 11 tracks listed Bjork has a sole songwriting credit on 4. All the tracks were produced with Nelle Hooper and Graham Massey. Now I'm not in the studio when she records the albums so I don't know how much of the tracks are hers and how much comes from the collaborators - but I certainly have more respect for artists such as Autechre, Cylob, Squarepusher, afx, etc. that program, engineer, mix, arrange, write, record and produce everything themselves than I do for Bjork who has an army of many other people to support her in those tasks.
quoted 3 lines Don't even TRY and convince me that because Björk has a zillion dollars she> Don't even TRY and convince me that because Björk has a zillion dollars she > can't do anything interesting or that because Cylob DOESN'T he can't. It's > not about that and I though we had learned that by now.
It must be quite novel to be able to purchase your influences rather than create the music yourself. I wonder what Ken D. has to say on the topic?
quoted 2 lines You tell me who deserves more respect.>>You tell me who deserves more respect. >...if you ask me Björk is the one because she dares. Cylob doesn't really.
Hmmm. What kind of risks are you taking when you already have a zillion dollars? There are many struggling IDM artists who have the talent and technical skills to produce the sort of mindless dance music that will sell loads more than the type of music they produce to stay true to themselves and because they believe in what they are doing. Some of those people are members on this list. I suppose I think they are a bit more brave than bjork.
quoted 1 line And please... don't be so fucking picky.>And please... don't be so fucking picky.
I'm not being picky. I can enjoy a good pop tune as much as the next geezer (I'm the one who posted about my love for the spice girls, remember?), but I acknowledge the music for what it is. When I read stuff like this...
quoted 3 lines It's getting quite crowded up ther now, but this album has it's place among> It's getting quite crowded up ther now, but this album has it's place among > the other killers of 1997; maPOd, Chiastic Slide, Hard Normal Daddy, Black > Dog Live 1997 - >>Homogenic<< doesn't deserve anything less than that.
and...
quoted 4 lines Björk is bored with cowards and she's fucking lightyears away from becoming> Björk is bored with cowards and she's fucking lightyears away from becoming > one. > I'd say get lost you "undergrounders", this is far more daring than Cylob, > Freeform or Music Aus Strom will ever be.
I have to say: get real. I still love you Plod geezers but I think you're off your rockers with this one. Random says...
quoted 3 lines what if an infinite number of monkeys wrote the best idm tune ever> what if an infinite number of monkeys wrote the best idm tune ever > ... hey, not only COULD it happen, but by the laws of probability, it > HAS to happen!
I suppose the monkey with Graham Massey, Nelle Hooper, Plaid, Howie B, Tricky and Mark Bell in it's cage has a bit of an advantage though :) gonzi.