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Simon Walley
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Mon, 01 Sep 1997 09:38:14 +0100
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(idm) Stuff
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quoted 5 lines From: "Lance C. McGannon" <mclance@nacs.net>>From: "Lance C. McGannon" <mclance@nacs.net> >Subject: (idm) The GPR label is back!!! > >Check out this new GPR compilation: >. Digital Millennium: v/a 2xCD (GPR)
Yeah, I had a promo a few weeks ago but uh, forgot I had it. This is going back to the old-skool of IDM - when the list had started up for a year or so and there was some interesting stuff coming through. Basically, lots of smooth old synth sounds and drum-machine (rather than straight breaks) tweakage. Some of it is outstanding, but some of it dated and a bit lame. But even so, it all harks back to a few years ago - and it's all got a definite similar sound to it that I didn't really pick up on at the time. I'd reccomend this 2xCD mainly because it's a nice slab of IDM circa a few years ago, a little snap-shot of IDM history. However, it reeks (like _Parallel_) of a money-grabbing effort by GPR. If they're attempting a comeback, this is a pretty lame way to go about it. The Beaumont Hannant/YO3 tracks are just okay - I was never a big Bea fan, although I know a lot of old IDM'ers were. Highlights are the following:
quoted 1 line . Terrace: Midiology>. Terrace: Midiology
Stefan Robbers' stuff always has an interesting (but subtle) twist and individual take to it. Always worth checking. This is nice.
quoted 1 line . Luke Slater's 7th Plain: Convex>. Luke Slater's 7th Plain: Convex
Actually, not a good track. Sounds like an old Jelly Jam outtake. I was disappointed compared with the _Four Cornered Room_ type material they could've put on there.
quoted 1 line . Mark Broom: Gold Cheese>. Mark Broom: Gold Cheese
Mainly notable for its pitch-bending Detroit chords - lots of Plaid percussion - I'm pretty sure this is the Broom era stuff where he worked with Andy and Ed.
quoted 1 line . Plaid: Scoobs in Columbia>. Plaid: Scoobs in Columbia
Fucking wicked. Buy the CD for this.
quoted 1 line . Russ Gabriel: Reality Flow>. Russ Gabriel: Reality Flow
Early tech-house from Mr. Gabriel if thats your thang.
quoted 1 line . Mark Broom: Seagulls>. Mark Broom: Seagulls
Definitely produced with Andy/Ed - the percussion is all over the place like _Actor and Audience_.
quoted 1 line . Black Dog: Virtual>. Black Dog: Virtual
This is actually a different remix from the version on _Parallel_. Not as beautiful but still extremely tasty.
quoted 4 lines From: Marie Kacmarek <marie@floatingcode.com>>From: Marie Kacmarek <marie@floatingcode.com> >Subject: RE: (idm) Gotta have... House... Music > >Why is this not a forum for house music?
Because no matter how fucking sublime or beautiful a house track is, most people on this list won't even give it the time of day because it will have either a 4/4 or a vocal (either full or sampled) in it.
quoted 1 line Sorry, but there's some sublime, deep shit goin' on round these parts.>Sorry, but there's some sublime, deep shit goin' on round these parts.
Word.
quoted 4 lines From: Suzi Ringmod <suziringmod@geocities.com>>From: Suzi Ringmod <suziringmod@geocities.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) Trajectory Infinite > >np: guidance: abacus
...and here's a good starting point. This is the _Analogue Tracks Vol.1_ yeah? Smooth, summer-evening stuff.
quoted 12 lines In message <3.0.32.19970829171833.00798730@pop3.demon.co.uk>, argos>In message <3.0.32.19970829171833.00798730@pop3.demon.co.uk>, argos ><artist@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk> writes >>At 21:52 28/08/97 +0100, you wrote: >> >>>I own the promo of the big loada EP and it definitely doesn't >>>say "i'm the one and only dominator" anywhere on it... >> >>this makes sense now... >> >>honest, it does, i have had 2 differently-pressed promos, the first of >>which (i gave to a mate) has definitely got this sample on it, the white >>label i've got now does not, i gave away the other because it wasn't a good
I think the first batch of whites were the tests (Warp usually order quite a few tests) with the sample. This was spotted and the track was edited and more tests were done leading to the final promos Ben has. I don't know if Renaat was asked about the sample - I think Warp just decided it was a good idea to remove it anyway. Maybe he was though.
quoted 6 lines From: Christina White <cwhite@panix.com>>From: Christina White <cwhite@panix.com> >Subject: RE: (idm) Gotta have... House... Music > >As for discussing house here, well I think you'll find that the barometer >lies somewhere between 'it sucks' and 'it's boring'. The most common >complaint being that it's too repetitive.
Basic Channel used to be discussed here quite regularly and I guess stuff like the Chain Reaction material would as well if the 313 list hadn't formed. Repetition doesn't equate with unintelligence so that argument is kind of off.
quoted 2 lines (In case you haven't noticed,>(In case you haven't noticed, >a lot of the people on this list are just smitten with drum programming.)
Again - this is no excuse for not discussing something. I'd say that working on a soulful groove is just as intelligent a process as chopping up a break in Recycle. And again, it all depends on how that chopped up break is used within the track.
quoted 2 lines Personally I'd>Personally I'd >rather get my shake on to house, than to talk about it.
For all I've written above, I agree with that in the main. But list members shouldn't be fucking dissuaded from buying house just because some kid on IDM denounces it as shit. Yeah, it all boils down to the "What is intelligence" thread that I don't even want to get near to. But I think the IDM category can get a bit narrow at times - and theres some good shit going on out there (be it house, hip-hop, techno - Detroit or otherwise) that more than qualifies. OnThisMorning: Phuture 303 : _Acid Soul_ || [CiM] || simonw@sol.ftp.com || -