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From:
Mark Kolmar
To:
H James Harkins
Cc:
idm
Date:
Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:17:31 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:
Re: (idm) Sloppy RDJ
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On Sat, 23 Aug 1997, H James Harkins wrote:
quoted 7 lines On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Ravis One wrote:> On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Ravis One wrote: > > Syncing as in on beat. Even funk players play on beat, or on the back beat > > with some shuffle. RDJ showcases some sloppy programming. > How about this... instead of chucking around blanket statements, name a > track or two that you think feature particularly sloppy programming. Then > I and others can try to listen from your perspective and see for ourselves > what merit your position might have (instead of the responses so far,
The entirety of both Hangable Auto Bulb EPs (as I remember them). Sloppy rhythm programming that lacks both a consistency or fluidity that would suggest the microtiming was at all deliberate. If you move the timing of individual hits by just a couple ticks forward or backward, it can make a large difference in the rhythmic feel -- from robotic to robo-funk, to a slippery groove, or the rhythm of an engine badly out-of-tune. The production did not sound deliberately gritty or rough, but just plain sloppy. The early material (SAW1, AB1, AB3 and others) demonstrated the limits of the boombox (or whatever) he was mixing to, but at least the mixes were reasonably well-balanced -- better than the HABs, and I can't imagine how he would not have had regular access to far better equipment by that time, to shape the sound any which way, if he chose. --Mark Kolmar __ <http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome> ==> MPEG audio clips <== m u s i c : w e b : s o u n d d e s i g n : h t m l : c g i : e t c "We invented machines in order to reduce our work. Now that we have them, we think we should go on working." (John Cage)