On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, Peter Becker wrote [about (idm) robbery]:
quoted 4 lines He goes to work, gets on the web, steals ideas and then rewrites them as>He goes to work, gets on the web, steals ideas and then rewrites them as
>his (the *companys* ) own. Its like stealing candy
>from a baby. This does go on beyond the lame move that
>junglizt@islandia.is has pulled.
unfortunately there is no law against this if the work isn't copyrighted :(
but morality always comes through, if they get caught, they won't be in
legal trouble, but they'll suffer from a morality check by consumers, etc.
just like everyone here is giving to the junglist guy. hm.. someone
mentioned modules, I wonder if he's in the demo-scene :) i'll get his
webpage and named pulled from some demo-scene e-mail databases
quoted 11 lines 2. I am NOT an HTML writer so please don't laugh at me for asking this. I>2. I am NOT an HTML writer so please don't laugh at me for asking this. I
>do dabble on the Asphodel page, but am not the author. My question is
>this: while I realize that you can check out other people's code and, by
>consequence, cut and paste ( see steal) it, why is this so easy? Are there
>not encryption/security programs that can "lock out" someone's code as it
>is their
>own "intellectual property"? Perhaps a naive question, so all you techies
>out there, please answer this as professionally as you can. YES, I realize
>that Netscape has a function that reveals the code, but why not a program
>that can keep it hidden?
>Would'nt this make copywright on the Net a bit more secure?
yes, but at the same time it would cripple a lot of things.. ie: many ppl
check html source to learn things from it (I know I learned html by solely
looking at sources).
and it wouldn't matter anyway, coz anything that comes into your computer
and can be viewed can be downloaded, with the exception of real audio, but
if you know the ins and outs of programming, you can reprogram it so that
you can download any files you want, although doing so is illegal, but I'm
not sure if doing it is illegal, or if it's doing it and sending it around
to everyone that's illegal.
quoted 3 lines 3. As far as what we can do, I realy don't know. I thought that perhaps we>3. As far as what we can do, I realy don't know. I thought that perhaps we
>could organize an IDM wide letter, one that is penned by you ( in a
>professional tone, of course) that would be approved by the list master
well i'd be glad to let gonzi put my name at the end of any such e-mail he
chooses to send. gonzi can send a letter to him and put all our names and
e-mail addresses (name optional of course) at the end of the letter, and
such..
quoted 3 lines More realistically, Gonz. Post a request to this list ( and perhaps to the>More realistically, Gonz. Post a request to this list ( and perhaps to the
>ambient list, too ) explaining your situation. As for permission to use
>their email signatures in a letter as mentioned. Maybe if the people on
yep, again, i'd be glad to let him do it.
quoted 2 lines I can also recommend a good copywright lawyer who works for $200 - $500 an>I can also recommend a good copywright lawyer who works for $200 - $500 an
>hour....tee hee.
heh I reckon that would be going to extreme's (at least for Gonzi, not for
Spymania or so)
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