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To:
Christopher Fahey
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'IDM'
Date:
Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:22:12 +0100
Subject:
Re: (idm) Panasonic Live
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quoted 5 lines I asked the Panasonic guys afterwards if they usually get people> I asked the Panasonic guys afterwards if they usually get people > dancing > more, and they said no. They seemed to be embarassed by the question, > as if > they thought that dancing was bad.
i reckon they probably got the wrong end of the stick... im sure theyd be cool if people were dancing, but i guess it doesnt happen much, i saw them supporting squarepusher in sheffield about two years ago and they were brilliant, i was dancing anyway... while the warp/Desingners Republic lot stood around looking 'aloof'..
quoted 12 lines Although Panasonic is sometimes lumped> Although Panasonic is sometimes lumped > into the techno category, and although their grooves are clearly house > > music influenced, they and their fans still appear to suffer from the > same > snotty problem that this entire IDM mailing list is founded on: That > there > is "intelligent" dance music and there is "unintelligent" dance music. > And > too often this breaks down to meaning that intelligent dance music is > too > good to actually dance to, unlike dumb dance music like house.
ive given up listening to what most people on this list think now... im sure many of them would describe derrick may as dumb house/techno... without realising that one rhythim is rhythim track contains more soul and power than everything by orbital/chemicals/photek,. the irony of the situation is that all these artists were undeniably influenced by the detroit sound. And then you might get acts like the black dog who are percieved as 'intelligent' by people,... but they try and class it as some sort of 'head-music / electronica'... bdp and balil are perfect for listening to at home... but they also make me want to shuffle like a nutter if i hear it out! (and how often is that?!......) but then i dance to merzbow so what do i know.....no one else at the planet mu gig seemed to be dancing when i played it though!!?! whats wrong with you kids?..........so i put 'balil'-norte route on and everyone sat down and nodded their heads.,..doh
quoted 22 lines By the way, one thing I'm noticing more and more at IDM type shows is> By the way, one thing I'm noticing more and more at IDM type shows is > the > total lack of diversity in the crowd. At this show, the first thing I > noticed was that besides the doorman and DJ spooky, there appeared to > be no > black people in the house. When I'm in an environment like that I have > to > ask myself why it is that way... The promoters of these events market > them > like they were alternative rock head nodding events, and to be honest > Blond > Redhead had a bigger crowd than Panasonic. It would be cool for > Panasonic > to play with an act that really actually is about dancing like maybe > Daft > Punk. Nah, maybe not - just like most Panasonic fans don't know they > are > listening to techno, most Daft Punk fans probably don't even know that > they > are listening to old school purebred house music. I'll bet Daft Punk > shows > are just as boring.
i think you should give panasonic fans more credit!! :)i think most people (in europe anyway) would percieve them as techno. hmmm i think a joint panasonic/daft punk gig might end up empty! i wouldnt want to think i had to sit thru daft punk to see panasonic! (and i like old school chicago house before anyone accuses me of being purist!!). Steve /k/./F/