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Thu, 29 May 1997 23:38:29 +0000
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Re: (idm) reznor/sample/thoughts
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Gonzi, sometimes you drive us all nuts, but man I am with you on what you just wrote! Too bad I missed the Metrop show last night, damn! I did happen to hear one of the tracks on his new single, not the title track but one that is just madness of scratching on top of a beat, I am thrilled with this shit. DJ SHADOW is wicked and a true artist. Reznor is a business man. He knows what he's doing and the dollar is helping him right along. However, Reznor paid his dues in the beginning, he was just right time right place and now he can sucker all the kids with crappy music/gloomy image. Tough shit for the marylin Manson/reznor fans, they just don't realize that this whole thing has been before (KISS/Alice Cooper). gonzi wrote:
quoted 3 lines gimmicks. I hate to see the music i'm into (aka plug) being associated> gimmicks. I hate to see the music i'm into (aka plug) being associated > with that and brought down to that level. >
I too am ashamed Plug is associated with the Nothing label, but like I said, Reznor knows his shit as a businessman. Sometimes a label's name could be a good indicator of the music it releases, cause there sures is nothing good comming from that NOTHING label, hopefully PLUG will not stay on too long.
quoted 2 lines Well if trent reznor is a leech then so is richard d james, luke vibert,> > Well if trent reznor is a leech then so is richard d james, luke vibert, > > booth and brown, ect..
I can't believe I am seeing booth and brown in the same sentence as reznor. Something is just not right. AFAIK, Booth and Brown, RDJ, etc, they do their own work, not hire someone to do it. That's why he's a leech. Pretty crystal clear if you ask me....
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quoted 3 lines story about how when Shadow was here last time he got up at 5am after> story about how when Shadow was here last time he got up at 5am after > djing all night so he could go to a swap meet to search the old records > for beats.
Yeah, I go to them swap meats myself, usually looking for car parts for my uncle's '36 Chevy, but Shadow is right. I see tons and tons of vinyl. Learn from the masters folks, if you're a vinyl sampling freak (I am not) get off yer ass. Seek and you shall find!!!
quoted 6 lines i guess when richard d james decided to do a drum> > > i guess when richard d james decided to do a drum > > and bass track it was ok because its rdj, but if trent reznor decides to > > dabble in it he is a leech. > > Basically yeah since richards been doing breakbeat tracks since 1990.
Again, Trent was making some killer tracks around 90 too! Not drum n bass, nevertheless he was ahead of some in the crowd. Perry Farrel picked his ass up on that Lollipop tour and now Trent is a millionare, maybe he should be paying Perry for his fame and his 'leechness'???
quoted 3 lines The thought of trent making jungle makes some of us who truly love that> The thought of trent making jungle makes some of us who truly love that > music cringe. Mostly because trent reznor makes an idiot of himself with > his ridiculous tortured soul posturing and his oh im so gloomy marketing
Yeah, he's an idiot. I saw him on the first Lollipop tour and he blew everyone away. I thought he was gonna revolutionize music, never happened imo. He wasn't all that cheesey at that show, but then his next tour (downward spiral)he's destroying keyboards (ala 70's KISS and their guitars) every two minutes or so. The whole Alice Cooper/Kiss things has been done already Trent. Ok, i am getting off topic. I guess I could let Gonzi do the talking for me on this one.