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Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:02:07 -0800 (PST)
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Re: (idm) Re: ROOTS OF IDM: Cabaret Voltaire
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On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 15 lines I remember how confusing "Body and Soul"'s funky minimalism was when it> > I remember how confusing "Body and Soul"'s funky minimalism was when it > > first came out, especially after the lush and rather poppy "Groovy, Laidback > > and Nasty", but in retrospect it was a rather historic album. Kirk's sense > > of rhythm is just awesome. P.S. - this is full-on idm territory, not some > > loser Industro-head waxing about yesteryear's glory days (although I do > > wonder about that sometimes :-) > > Well, if you were a "loser Industro-head" you'd be mumbling like me that you > and Jon and everyone else has lost their minds! I dropped Cab Vol like a hot > potato after "Microphonies" since (from a purist Industro-head's perspective) > they'd *clearly* lost their original way and were making lame lukewarm > non-Industrial and-damn-Mal's-actually-*singing*-now-blecch fodder. > (Hey, that's what I thought back in '85-'86, so sue me ... plus, at that point > I was finding what Chakk and Hula were doing to be more interesting than the > Cabs' direction at that juncture.)
I follow this completely: I bought CV from '83 till I bought Code, was sorely disappointed that they were trying to make funk (yes, it was well produced, but it was so uninventive!) and abandoned them until '92 when I heard Sweet Exorcist and flipped! I never did hear Groovy L, & Nasty. The issue was not the loss of 'industrial' soud (I've never owned a Skinny Puppy lp actually), nor a dislike of funk (I'm a big Stax/Tower of Power fan) or even Bill Nelson (the guitarist on Code who I like otherwise). Itis just the uninventiveness of it. Sherwood steals the show with the eq'ing and production, as exemplified by the 12" stuff.
quoted 4 lines I suppose the last 6-7 years of Techno immersion would probably have me> I suppose the last 6-7 years of Techno immersion would probably have me > revisit such a decision (heck, I've never even *heard* "Groovy ... "), but > you might have seen things differently if you were a Cab Volt fanatic from > day one ...
Yep, exactly my opinion too. I guess it is just a perspective thing, as i could see liking Code if I'd never heard them before...
quoted 4 lines Erm ... anyway, since Jon started this "ROOTS OF IDM" thing ... I'll toss> Erm ... anyway, since Jon started this "ROOTS OF IDM" thing ... I'll toss > out a couple more: > > John Foxx "Metamatic" (Virgin, 1980)
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