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From:
Chris Fahey
To:
'drift wood' , 'idm@hyperreal.org'
Date:
Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:05:51 -0500
Subject:
RE: (idm) crowds.
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quoted 3 lines What do you expect them to do - put on clown suits and do some> What do you expect them to do - put on clown suits and do some > juggling? It's not much different from most bands with guitars - they > stand there motionless, unsmiling - why is this any different?
Well, I have to agree that most guitar bands suck too, just like almost everything sucks. But even a guitar allows for some unique expression of sound, and a live drum kit allows for improvisation and idiosyncratic performance. A sampler and an effects processor rarely allow for such a degree of real-time performance because they are simply not designed for live performance. And a turntable, unless abused by a tricknological wizard, is rarely used in a way that I myself can't use one. Let's imagine an empirical measure of this idea, let's call it "performance activity level", or PAL. Let's measure the PAL in terms of the number of actual sonic variations producable by the performer at any given time. A person who presses play on a dat machine is only capable of one variation, on or off, so they have low PAL. A person with a triangle is capable of a few more variations, but still not very many. Moving up the scale we get to the piano, drums, and the violin. Where does a sequencer or a 303 fall in this system? Somewhere slightly above a cowbell I'd say, because there are so few things you need to do with them to produce sounds. Most electronic instruments are designed to give the user an enormous amount of control over a single sonic element at a time, allowing the studio musician to fine tune every aspect of their product. They are not designed for producing a real-time performance for an attentive audience. To put it another way - if the artist you are watching were to suddenly pass out onstage, or if they were drunk or blindfolded or otherwise reflex-impaired, would you be able to immediately tell the difference int he sound? Let's just imagine what electronic live shows *could* be, beyond the traditional "let's build the home studio on the stage" model: A great deal of electronic music is composed using keyboards. A keyboard synth is a type of electronic instument that allows for a rich range of virtuosic control over the sound produced. I *never* see IDM artists using keyboards (probably because they can't play). What about making their own instuments that allow for more real-time control over the sound? What about vocalists? Or live drum kits? Or theatrical performance? Or dance? Or a collaboration between these elements, mixing samplers with live drums, etc.
quoted 3 lines You know the score before you go to see any electronic music artist -> You know the score before you go to see any electronic music artist - > it's music composed on machines and so will be played back to the > audience on those machines.
As far as knowing the score, the score is this: Most electronic music is produced using a painstaking process taking hours, days, weeks, or even months. It involves editing, tweaking, multitracking, etc, etc. It is usually a process that does not produce great music in real time, it is more like painting or composition in that the final product takes a long time to make. In most cases it is a process not at all worth paying to watch. Which is why so many electronic shows (though not IDM shows usually) have lasers and drugs aplenty. I think that as long as IDM musicians continue to have boring shows that appeal only to their starfucker fans and to electronic musician gearheads, we shouldn't expect their audiences to have to keep their mouth shut. By the same token, if an IDM artist doesn't have a great live skill set worth watching (or if they don't have a bad skill set they're hoping to develop into a good one) they flat out should not perform live.
quoted 5 lines I know Aphex has addressed this problem by getting Rephlex staff> I know Aphex has addressed this problem by getting Rephlex staff > dressed up in giant Bear costumes and I admit this is > entertaining, but > most of us go to hear the music. If you want to talk to your mates, do > it at home. It's cheaper.
It's also cheaper to pop the CD in at home too, and with the exception of the loud volume (which is admittedly a huge appeal for many music fas) it's the same thing. After having been ripped off by countless IDM artists over the years, staying home with friends is exactly what I do. Unless of course I'm on a guest list, in which case I go in and chew the fat with my friends about how much more the artist(s) might do on stage to make the show worthwhile for the poor suckers who paid. I will however pay to see Aphex Twin again. The dancing bears were brilliant, and I know that I can count on him to put on a show that will at least have *something* interesting going on. -cf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org