quoted 5 lines i hear a lot of talk about habituation when listening to new autechre; not>i hear a lot of talk about habituation when listening to new autechre; not
>necessarily a good thing! listen to anything for long enough and you'll
>begin to hear things that you didn't notice at first, or that aren't even
>there perhaps. i am always wary when someone tells me that, if i don't
>like something it is just because i don't understand it, and ought to
listen
quoted 2 lines again and again and again until i do understand it, or am at least used to>again and again and again until i do understand it, or am at least used to
>it, habituated.
well now i never said that if you don't like it that's because you don't
understand it. i'm sure many people thoroughly reviewed it and decided
they didn't like it. but there are probably others who listened to it a
couple times and discarded it because it didn't strike their fancy right
away. (it didn't mine on listen #1). and that's fine of course. and when
you say 'listen to anything for long enough and you'll begin to hear things
that you didn't notice .... etc'
i still don't see how that's negative at all. i read an interview with
markus popp (oval) and he responds when asked what music he listened to:
"not very much in particular. just whatever music is on whenever i'm
waiting somewhere. i dunno, it's kinda everywhere anyway, so..."
point is... i think many music listeners are not critics. i, for one,
can honestly say that i can enjoy any music. it all has potential to be
good, or interesting, or bad, or anything when it is listened to without
black and white judgement.
quoted 7 lines of course, who can say for sure if the ae guys really do have a coherent>
>of course, who can say for sure if the ae guys really do have a coherent
>message "beneath the surface" of ep7? i feel like i can understand what
>they are doing and saying but it just doesn't work in the same way that it
>did for me with Tri Repetae and Garbage EP stuff, parts of Chiastic +
>Chiclisuite .. but that's just what I like. it's okay to not like EP7,
>right?
oh of course. i definetely would rule out that autechre has any "beneath
the surface" message in any of their music. i would say that they have
"beneath the surface" richness though. not a message, but that's where i
think autechre becomes truly beautiful and advanced music. i recall an
article i read which i'm sure many of you have also read that parallels
autechre's engineering with disneyland blueprints. it was 1997 i believe
during the chiastic slide period when they were commenting on the
mechanical detailing beneath the magic of disneyland. i'd say they
certainly stuck with that 'philosophy' throughout the next few releases.
changing the sounds, but keeping the detailing and carving it down even
further and further with each release.
it
quoted 8 lines doesn't mean that i don't _understand_ EP7; i just don't like it.>doesn't mean that i don't _understand_ EP7; i just don't like it.
>
>if you don't like it, don't feel like you have to listen and listen until
>you do; listen
>to something else that you actually do like, and you'll be happier.
>probably?
>would people give this record so many chances, spend so much time getting
>used to it, if it weren't ae? probably not..
on the contrary, i am happier when i discover that i like something i
wouldn't normally enjoy. it's sort of....
fascinating to me when i find that i'm into something outside my normal
listening scheme.
most people, you're right, would not give ep7 'so many chances'.... along
with anything else that isn't fast food. i prefer not to think of music
listening in terms of 'chances'. it's not like a make or break thing you
know. it's just music.
anyway, i'm not going in further with this one.
listen free!
joseph fitzpatrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Sasso <nsassokareli@clarku.edu>
To: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: (idm) Re: chiastic slide
quoted 11 lines yeah i could tap into that. the new autechre is all about the>> yeah i could tap into that. the new autechre is all about the
>>sounds and the rhythms. no more techno, dancefloor bass cadets. don't
>>get me wrong i love the old stuff too, but autechre has evolved their
>>sound. the melodic treasures are hidden beneath the timbres. take
>>"squeller" for example (track3, ep7). the melody is not audible at a
>>surface level. the new stuff won't "click" at all because you have to
>dig
>>into it just to hear it. i personally think like the newer the better.
>>there are not too many songs more beautiful and moving than "vose in" or
>>"corc" or "dropp". autechre truly is 'listening' music. it must be
>>studied to be appreciated. i guess that makes it minimal in the sense
that
quoted 5 lines it is such detailed music. maybe those of you that are not yet into lp5>>it is such detailed music. maybe those of you that are not yet into lp5
>>and ep7 just need to hear more than what you think you hear. take time
>and
>>drugs and hear all the richness new ae has to offer.
>quoted 2 lines all that said, im listening to Maphive 6.1 right now and i like it a lot.>
>all that said, im listening to Maphive 6.1 right now and i like it a lot.
=)
quoted 9 lines nice one..>nice one..
>
>noah
>
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