On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 Geotrax1@aol.com wrote:
quoted 24 lines In a message dated 20-10-96 19:29:20, you write:> In a message dated 20-10-96 19:29:20, you write:
>
> > > "I hate trip-hop! I don't even know what trip-hop means - if it's The
> > > Dust Brothers then eat my shit, because they're the worst cunts ever.
> > > They just do samples, really, which I never do. But I like some of the
> > > Mo'Wax stuff, some of that's quite deep."
>
> > > -Luke Vibert
>
> > Now this really takes it...I have plenty of respect for Luke Vibert.
> > However...him saying that the Dust Bros., who are as fucking innovative as
> > anyone, are shitty because of using "just samples"...reeks. I'll just
> > remind all involved of mr. vibert's quote from raygun
>
> I think the emphasis here is on 'just' doing samples - Vibert bases most of
> his music on samples, yes - but that is just the starting point, he takes the
> music to a higher level with his startling, original instrumentation. I'm no
> fan of the Chemical Brothers I admit, but their records seem mostly to be
> glorified 'megamixes', of quickly stolen passages from other people's
> records. It's just a huge ripoff of the late 80's Beastie Boys sound,
> produced by, guess who, the Dust Brothers (the original name the Chemical
> Brothers had until they were sued by said production team). Except of
> course, the original Dust Brothers did it properly, with style and funk,
> instead of this compressed wall-of-noise subtlety-free barrage of beats.
Oh, a ripoff of a ripoff that probably ripoffed some other ripoff. I will
admit that Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique is a really good album, but have
the Dust Brothers done anything else good? I haven't heard much from them
that is very impressive, except PB. The most boring stuff I hear are the
people trying to copy the Chemical Brothers sound (all that California
Breaks type shit). Perhaps some people resent the Chemical Brothers
their style has been copied by so many others.
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing now that is an album that I am impressed with
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