Warning: This post has very little specific music content. It probably
belongs on a list called 'Meta-IDM' but that doesn't exist. Rest
assured it's my last public post on the matter this year. However
tempting the reply to a reply (if any) might be :)
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:16:48 +0000 (), Che <zeus8@synthcom.com> wrote:
quoted 8 lines i think the larger question here might be...with a list of over 800>> >>i think the larger question here might be...with a list of over 800
>> >members, why is so much of the conversation dominated by such utterly
>> >pedantic nonfacts about the same old thing...
>>
>> Because only about 25 people out of that 800 appear to read things.
>
>Yes, the other 775 of us are frantically hitting the "Delete" key every
>time we see "Woodenspoon" in a subject line.
?? People don't pay attention to posts -> lot's of repeated boring
information.
quoted 11 lines some of the less knowledgable (and obsessive) types would rather not say>> >some of the less knowledgable (and obsessive) types would rather not say
>> >something about a record that they like, for fear of looking less
>> >knowledgeable (or less privvy to insider info).
>>
>> fuck off. do you honestly believe this? people don't review stuff for
>> two reasons: if it's no good, or if they can't be arsed. I posted the
>> other day with the effect that people should review more stuff. come
>> to a blech. no warphlex tyranny there.
>
>Funny how everyone I talk to believes this. Numerous people have told me
>they dropped off "The Aphex Twin Fan Club List" for this very reason.
You don't address the problem, why don't people review more stuff?? If
people don't post about things, they won't see them discussed. It's
their fault not IDM's. I personally find it rather perculiar that no
one talks about early Djax stuff more, as most of it is totally ace.
Djax in fact was one of the most influential labels of my musical
'youth' so to speak, ie 2-3 years ago, along with Warp, Plus8, and
Transmat.
However I have not found the time to explain my fascination with Djax.
So I have never posted (much) about it/them. I cannot therefore accuse
people of not talking about Djax, or of shutting Djax out, or of
wasting their time on non Djax trivialities - because as a fan *I*
should be talking about them, inviting comment and *not* complaining
why others don't discuss the topic.
quoted 11 lines i try to combat this with>> >i try to combat this with
>> >(admittedly) poorly written reviews i could title "stuff no one else
>> >mentioned that's still good", but it is frustrating to put the info out
>> >there, to get maybe one or two acknowledgements.
>>
>> oh you just want attention! just because no one replies to your review
>> doesn't mean they didn't read it or weren't influenced by it. I get
>> fuck all feedback to my posts.
>
>Maybe he just wants to know that other people are enjoying the same great
>music he likes.
Of course this is *fundamentally* what this list is all about, the
love of a music that the majority of people don't seem to get, but if
he doesn't post about it he will never know whether people like it or
not. Feedback to posts (or lack of it) does not directly correlate to
what people think about.
quoted 2 lines It seems pretty obvious that you're the one that wants>It seems pretty obvious that you're the one that wants
>attention.
Everyone wants attention, it's genetic. I don't bawl if I'm not
getting it. In public anyway :) It's not cricket you know.
quoted 3 lines do people ever call you a humourless bastard?>> do people ever call you a humourless bastard?
>
>Not nearly as often as people call you a humourless bastard.
what a witty and clever retort. some might say *incomprehensably*
witty for an american (+).
quoted 5 lines indeed. I think nearly everybody on this list loves music. That is>> indeed. I think nearly everybody on this list loves music. That is
>> taken for granted.
>
>Sometimes I wonder if certain people really love the music or if they
>just love wielding obscrure facts about the people making the music.
Sure the internet is full of fact-wielders, they provide a useful
service as long as you don't have to listen to the same fact
repeatedly...
quoted 1 line I'd love to see a "Warp/Aphex/Rephlex Trainspotters List",>I'd love to see a "Warp/Aphex/Rephlex Trainspotters List",
That would be pretty sterile.
quoted 3 lines where the>where the
>minority that is interested in Mr. James' haircolor this month could
>speculate on such trivia,
nobody is interested in non-music trivia. people want music,
record-related trivia helps them get to it. I didn't know about the
warp detroit anon release until it was brought up the other day. Odds
on it's not amazing (other wise it would have been released properly
eh? :) but I want to find that out for myself and in anycase place it
musically in the histroy of Warp. Or something.
quoted 6 lines and leave IDM a more musically oriented place.>and leave IDM a more musically oriented place.
>However, since our listadmin seems to be the founder of the Aphex Twin Fan
>Club, I doubt thats going to happen. But,in defence of our listadmin,
>since he takes the time to administer the list, it's only right that he
>do whatever the hell he wants with it, even if it doens't make me
>happy. That's life.
I'm so glad that you will allow Alan to carry on doing what he's be
doing successfully for 3 odd years or so.
quoted 1 line Maybe it's time to go back to reading idm-reviews.>Maybe it's time to go back to reading idm-reviews.
No. Absolutely not. Maybe it's time you wrote some.
It's certainly time for me to take this thread offline.
g.
(+) I reserve the right to retract this 'joke' and replace it with a
relevent one if you turn out not to be american.