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From:
Kent Williams
To:
Philip Evans
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Date:
Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:59:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:
Re: (idm) jazzy jungle
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On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Philip Evans wrote:
quoted 5 lines The Blue Note album tends more to the predictable 70's fusion and mellow> > The Blue Note album tends more to the predictable 70's fusion and mellow > jazz. Will anybody *ever* dig into those old Ornette Coleman or John > Coltrane tracks, and build some truly intelligent acid jazz? >
Here's my deep thought for the day: You can't really get anywhere sampling really great shit. That stuff is so intertwined between context and content, it's like trying to whittle pieces off of the trunk of a mahogany tree. What exactly would you do with 'Traning In?' There's no sound byte there-- there's one musical idea that it takes Coltrane 18 minutes to express. Any little piece of it won't do -- it doesn't have hooks, and without it's surroundings it's a nearly random doodle. Whereas when you dig into lightweight stuff, there's little hooky bits that you can go off on. Case in point -- I heard a house track on the radio that is built around a 3 note sample of Joao Gilberto from the song "Girl From Ipanema'. It turns into a little 'dum dum dum' mantra in this context. My all time favorite sample-fest is STILL 3 Ft High and Rising. Prince Paul is the bomb! Those little loops from Mickey Mouse Disco? Whoa. And the chorus built from a michael jackson hit and a Hall and Oates song? Godhead. And the point is, he collages with lightweight stuff. So acid jazz dudes need to just play IMHO. Maybe someday they'll be as funky as 'Back at Chicken Shack' by Jimmy Smith, but they've got a long way to go, and a bus ticket that's only gonna take them half way. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the lame home page http://soli.inav.net/~kent/ Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)