quoted 12 lines From: acowper@dvcorp.co.uk (Andrew Cowper)>
> From: acowper@dvcorp.co.uk (Andrew Cowper)
> Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 14:16:47 +0100
> Subject: (idm) Amen breaks and Stuff.
>
> Tom Churchill <tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk> reckons...
>
> > It also appears in the original form on NWA's 'Straight Outta
> >Compton' and the original is taken from the b-side of 'Amen, Brother' by
> >the Winstons. You'll recognise it instantly as soon as you figure out
> >which one it is - it's *the* most used break in jungle. Now you've just
> >got to spot the 'helicopter' and 'apache' breaks...
Is helicopter the one with the high pitched voice in it, as (over) used
by T-Power, etc, etc.
I've heard the apache one (on J Majik/Infra Reds 'Apache' and
elsewhere). A difficult one to describe though. No real distinguishing
features like Amen & thehighpichedvoiceone.
quoted 5 lines All this talk of classic breaks has got me thinking...> All this talk of classic breaks has got me thinking...
> Does anyone ever make their own breaks using single shot sounds
> out of a drum machine? Me and a mate sometimes get together and make tunes,
> and we had a go at some jungle but the beats ended up sounding
> pretty poor and repetitive.
Yeah. The thing you've got to remember is that no matter how good your
programming skills are, its the SOUND that matters. Thats why the amen
and other breaks are used so much because they have a sound which cuts
through real well. Theres been a lot of talk about this on the 'breaks'
list, but to be honest I don't think there is much point trying to start
from scratch with one shot samples, its missing the original point of
jungle. Its fun to try and do if you haven't got/can't afford (like me!) a
decent sampler, but I don't think it will ever really happen. The music
is all aobut the sound and dynamics you get when you speed up and cut up
samples.
quoted 5 lines I reckon to get anything like> I reckon to get anything like
> the complexity of the breaks in say a Photek tune out of single
> shot samples would take forever. So do any obsessives actually do
> this, or do they all work by sampling and rearranging existing breaks?
> Anyone know/got any thoughts?
Well I know Photek says hes stopped using other peoples breaks and now
makes his own, but as far as I can tell from Hidden Camera, he's still
cutting them up in the sampler even if he made them on his own equipment,
and they're certainly not one shit samples.
Gotta go...
but wait...
Likemind
quoted 1 line :: lm-003 Absolute Top; 4 tracks: Tura (=Plaid), B12, Stasis and Nuron> :: lm-003 Absolute Top; 4 tracks: Tura (=Plaid), B12, Stasis and Nuron
Yes! A nice one. That exclusive Plaid/Black Dog track sure is good. B12
track is 'The Silicon Garden' as feature on Time Tourist. Not sure if its
the same version though.
Can't wait for the new Black Dog LP!
Woof!