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From:
Farm A Cist
To:
PIRNIE JUSTIN THOMAS
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Date:
Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:44:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: (idm) The whole AFX bootleg issue...
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On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, PIRNIE JUSTIN THOMAS wrote:
quoted 11 lines On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Farm A Cist wrote:> On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Farm A Cist wrote: > > > All I know is; I am selling tapes of my non-sampled, synth programmed > > stuff next to local DJ tapes, and while their mediocre mixes are priced > > at $12-15 a tape, my original songs are selling for less! This feels > > very wrong to me. Sure there is an art to mixing, but, $15?!?!? A CD of > > local ambient-techno programmers sells for less than that and goes to the > > people who actually generated the sounds!! > > > > yes but which ones are selling? that is the real question!
Well, the dj tapes of course! I can't expect many people to by the original music. The techno music industry seems to work like: programmer makes records for dj's (who buy a lot of them) and then sort of resell them to the audiences that they mix for.
quoted 1 line dont blame the djs, mediocre or excellent, for your own lack of sales...> dont blame the djs, mediocre or excellent, for your own lack of sales...
I don't mean to, but the local clubs won't let live programmers play very much as they really aren't in the business of live music, I guess, as people don't go to see that. I was just pointing out that it was a weird fact of life at present. A music-maker near this genre is not really allowed to sell directly to the average listener of techno/ambient/etc then because it is more of a recorded medium and is very hard to pull off live with the same amount of variety and flexibility a dj has. Also, most dj's don't particularly let the club-goers know what they are playing, so that keeps the dj positioned as a middleman/co-creator, too. Hmm. I was thinking that, while I understand the dynamics, it is just "weird" to see the prices higher for dj tapes than each of the local original music tapes there and know that techno that one makes will reach more listeners ears through an anonymous existence on a dj tape than through the old album-release approach. I think that this allows more experimental programming in the end, (so I guess I'm not really *bothered* by this whole reality) because dj's will buy stuff to filter out the bits with popular appeal or fashionable qualities and just listen to the rest of the odder stuff in their bedrooms at home (i.e. muziq and his mixable and non-mixable incarnations, or just albums vs. 12"s). The reason that all of this is weird to me is I have been programming since before I was aware of the dj'ing scene, so for a long time, I was thinking along the album-release-idea; time for me to toss that old way of thinking! ;-/ ;-} David Chandler - chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (503)301-3011 grep -i casio goodwillbins >> mystudio ; grep -i atari goodwillbins >> mystudio ;