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From:
GD
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Date:
Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:52:52 -0500
Subject:
Re: (idm) breakbeats
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Eric Hill wrote:
quoted 4 lines Breaks are a well known and oft-used component of improvisational jazz. They> > Breaks are a well known and oft-used component of improvisational jazz. They > tend to be shorter than solos at around a measure or so and involve any > instrument that plays alone for that time
Hmmmm...I guess this refers to what happens in some jazz tunes when the whole band is playing the melody where the group will play maybe 2 bars of the changes and then the drummer improvises the next two and then they repeat this sequence several times. This makes sense.
quoted 5 lines In much the same way that you can't take a rap instrumental, listen to the> In much the same way that you can't take a rap instrumental, listen to the > beat and reconstruct the song it was sampled from, you can't slow down a > jungle chune and trace its roots. [...] The beats don't seem > similar to their hip hop predecessors because the nature of samplers and > sequencing software today
Well no wonder I don't recognize any hip-hop beats in there - if you make pesto with garlic and pine nuts in the blender it's hard to recognize the ingredients once the mix is done.
quoted 4 lines desired. This ability to microcompose and tweak the fuck out of beats that> desired. This ability to microcompose and tweak the fuck out of beats that > many times pays no attention to time signatures, note lengths, rudiments or > any of that traditional stuff that is usually required for some piece of > assembled sound to be considered real music.
Well, you could describe the rhythms in a traditional sense; the timbre changes would be tough though. As for time signatures, most jungle is in 4/4, that is, the melodies or bass lines are. The rhythms may be all over the place but almost all jungle is in 4. Does anyone know of any artists who are doing jungle/breakbeat not in interesting time signatures?
quoted 4 lines Taking into account the> Taking into account the > traditional definition of syncopation as "not falling on the beat," jungle > falls well high on the list of spearheading exploration into progressive > attitudes toward rhythm.
Well, but jungle usually doesn't usually have "swing" or syncopation in it. The only example of syncopated jungle I can think of is the Plug series. Most everything else seems like it has been quantized 'straight' without any of the swing element being used. GD