quoted 2 lines A Tribe> A Tribe
> Called Quest took a step backwards on their last release.
Dead wrong my brother.. I think Tribe have done the Miles scene better
than anyone else. Aside from that though, the most underated producer (I
don't want to categorize but..) in rap is Ali Shaheem Muhammed (spelling
is my fortee).. The man produces innovatively on the same lines as the
"innovators" you've discussed.. If Muggs is an innovator, Shaheem
definitely is an innovator on Midnight Murauders. I have not heard any
body rip off tribe yet.. either people can't, or they just don't want
to.. either way, I think it is a testament to tribes innovation..
quoted 2 lines Naughty by> Naughty by
> Nature were never the innovators but they've become completely uninspired.
Naughty By Nature? What are we talking about again.. I thought we were in
the context of intelligent music.
quoted 3 lines Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg, sorry to say, are in business to sell> Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg, sorry to say, are in business to sell
> themselves to a wide (white) audience as some kind of gun-totin'
> bitch-slappin' n***as, which frankly insults my intelligence.
I don't think you should value musical innovation by the artists'
intention. It is not clear to me how to value art, but even if Dre meant
to rip off the whole fucking world with no intention to innovate, why
should his creation fall because of it.
As well, "gun totin niggas" is just what it is pegged within the context
of white discourse over music.. Words in one context are obviously
different in another.. Judging "gun tottin" must be judged in its own
context.. And unless I've been asleep for the last 15 yrs, rap has
definitely developed its own language..
"You down with MBD? yeah you know me!!"
Fuck man, I can rap better than Naughty By Nature..
Ciao, and there just ain't enough talk of rap in this forum.. Rap is
intelligence dance music or at least a superset of idm..
Good discussion..
M