quoted 5 lines I saw your message,and I must emphatically disagree with you.>I saw your message,and I must emphatically disagree with you.
>This line of thinking has been gaining incredible ground over the last few
>years, combined with an anti-technology theme. This argument, is of
>course, is groundless - Sun Ra (who you name as 'good stuff') used also
>sorts of freaky freaky shit - including pre programmed stuff.
When did I say anything against preprogramed stuff? I said I dislike hearing
a sample looped over and over again and 'pre-programed sampled beats' -
refering to
the amount of acid-jazz(and techno) that is nothing but basic chords of other
people's
playing. I dont see the energy that is in jazz, in bad structure of other
people's music. It's like cold fish. I'm tottaly into electronic and
programed music, I do it myself.
quoted 9 lines This same arguement was used DECADES ago in relation to several new>This same arguement was used DECADES ago in relation to several new
>innovations in jazz that "purists" said were ruining jazz. First, the
>electric guitar. People would boycott shows because artists were bringing
>these carzy futuristic instruments into their bands and orchestras. Oh, the
>HORROR! Along the same lines - amplification! As technology progressed,
>jazz "purists" preferred soloists in front of stationary mics, in classic
>jazz poses i.e. not moving. Miles Davis called this "boring old fashioned
>shit" and started moving around a lot when he got older, with a clip on
>mike.
Your diggin your own hole there... Once again I'm all for electronic
equipment, the newer and more fucked up( and allownces of FAT SLACK!) the
better.
quoted 3 lines Atlantis23 you are old fashioned for taking this view anti acid-jazz>Atlantis23 you are old fashioned for taking this view anti acid-jazz
>stance. Even Miles was decrying the present state of jazz towards the end
>of his life.
Having your own standards is old fashioned? ok!
quoted 3 lines Have you ever seen someone use two turntables to mix something up? The>Have you ever seen someone use two turntables to mix something up? The
>beats may be "pre-programmed" but the DJ uses incredible improvisation
>skills to make it sound new and exciting.
Sure have. Quite often, and I enjoy it too!
quoted 2 lines All live acid jazz bands off the top of my head:>All live acid jazz bands off the top of my head:
>Greyboy All-Stars, Brand New Heavies, JT Quartet, Charlie Hunter Trio,
etc.
I'm familiar with all of these, and some of it's great! But would you really
call these
bands 'acid-jazz' ??
quoted 3 lines Make way for the new generation, one that reveres the old school while>Make way for the new generation, one that reveres the old school while
>embracing the future. If everyone was like you, we would all still be
>grooving to Jellyroll Morton...
Um... ok buddy!
dave wright
not breathing
i love when bored grouchy people assume and bring in irrelevant
conversations...