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From:
Derek Oliver
To:
airfix twerp
Cc:
idm
Date:
Sat, 4 Feb 1995 04:19:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: Industrial vs. Techno
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On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, airfix twerp wrote:
quoted 38 lines On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Jola Shepherd wrote:> > > On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Jola Shepherd wrote: > > > > > > > So many genres, so little time to form affiliations. You folks > > just don't realize that techno and industrial really have nothing, and > > yet everything to do with each other. > > > > Point is, maybe one artist was influenced by another. Every > > artist is different, with different ideas, and different plans. Music > > happens when it happens. If I release a groundbreaking new track, there > > is always going to be somebody saying I was influenced by (or even > > ripping off) so-and-so. Regardless of the fact that I may not have even > > heard of the artist I'm supposedly ripping off! > > > > Reminds me of when I was a drummer...A certain detractor of mine > > claimed I was rehashing riffs from Billy Cobham...I had to go and buy > > Cobham albums to see what they were talking about... > > > > Influence is a funny thing...I have this weird feeling that it > > happens in this field of music much less than expected. God bonk me on > > the head if I ever say... "I make music influenced by [current hype]", > > because [current hype] rolls by fast... > > > > > > Meester Cameron > > > > > > On now Electric Eye "Closed Circuit" > > having my cake and eating it too.... > yeah i totally agree with you there mate.......it does get a bit tiring > having to read all the genre wars on here....we're all in this together ppl, > we're all on the same side-im not really THAT bothered about who > influenced a track/album, as long as i like it-i'll buy it! > airfix twerp >
No shit. I find all styles have shitty artists as well as good artists. The only type of person I have trouble respecting is someone that doesn't use there own mind to make choices on what music they listen too. Like the fuckers at work...."I hate this techno computer fart noise," small minded radio feed mass consumer. "Oh yea, What would you rather listen too?", me. "How about Nirvana or Pearl Jam or Green Day (insert mass marketed psuedo alternative rebellious teenager music here). "Oh yeah, have you ever heard Big Black or Scratch Acid...etc?" I says. "No, I only like these bands (major label, mass marketed, heavy radio and or mtv play)." Or the guy that thinks Trent Reznor "is a fucking genius" but has failed to listen to anything other than Nine Inch Nails, Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, and Skinny Puppy. Has anybody really invented anything entirely? No. Everything is a composite of other ideas. So to say that somone or a particular style has invented something is ludicrous. No one has heard every piece of music either, and there is more than one way to listen to a song critically. Anyway, I'll shut up, me's got to go to beddy boo. Derek moses@teleport.com Inportland Techno Acid Ambient Mail Order DJ Rumpleforeskin Import Domestic Records-C.D.'s 0--\___/--\___/---0 phone/fax 503-620-3340 SUBMERGE TO THE DEEPEST DEPTHS IN ORDER THAT THE HIGHEST BE ELEVATED TO LIGHT *Alfred Rosenberg