This whole debate reminds me of the kind of "so-and-so's a poseur" debates
my friends had in high school when alternative rock started to make the pop
charts. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
quoted 3 lines Are there huge drum n bass sections at> Are there huge drum n bass sections at
> Musicland now? I don't think so. Does the average Joe
> even know what drum n bass is...not likely.
The Virgin Records Megastore in NYC has at least two rows of drum and bass,
and that's in addition to two rows of "Electronica" and two more rows of
"Dance Music". Maybe I spoke too soon about the rest of America, but the
fact of the matter is that you can't say that the *sound* of drum and bass
would surprise anyone in America anymore, even if almost nobody can name any
artists. It's a mainstream sound, something everyone is familiar with.
Yes, the scene may be smaller now after the big bubble a few years ago, but
the *sound* itself is infiltrating other musical forms, like a drop of red
ink in a glass of water: soon, all pop music will be tinted with drum and
bass influences regardless of whether or not there's a drum and bass section
at the mall. House music may not be mainstream either, but Cher and Madonna
use the sound as if they knew full well that the kids wouldn't be threatened
by it.
quoted 12 lines * Has it occurred to you that many drum and bass> > >> * Has it occurred to you that many drum and bass
> > musicians
> > >> make most of their living off of selling their
> > music to advertisers?
> > >
> > > Really? Most d'nb musicians? why are there so
> > few adds featuring it if
> > > it's so widely sold? This doesn't make sense.
> > Where do you get your
> > > information?
>
> Yeah NAME some producers, a least one notable one.
First, you too misread me: I said *many* musicians, not *most*. As far as
naming them, check the IDM archives for IDM artists in ads. Every famous
artist who has a track in a major telecommunications or car company ad I
*guarantee* made the majority of their money that year from that ad.
quoted 6 lines I think there are alot of people that just put together> I think there are alot of people that just put together
> tracks for commercials. A friend of mine that makes
> commercials has someone make the music he needs for
> commercials. Apparently, all he needs is to give the
> guy an example of what he wants and the guy can mimic
> it.
Says a lot about the difficulty of making drum and bass, huh? I'll bet that
there are people who make drum and bass for commercials who can put together
tracks that would make Photek and Grooverider fans shit their pants in awe,
but they choose not to release records cuz they can't make money from them.
They choose their audience - instead of ccatering to club kids they cater to
ad executives. Who are often the same people anyway. They guy you speak of
sounds talented and could probably get a record deal with some D&B label if
he put his mind to it.
quoted 2 lines And let's say a dnb producer did make a tune, what> And let's say a dnb producer did make a tune, what
> then? Does that mean he is lesser in anyway?
Absolutely not. He or she's making a living just like I do, by working for
the man. I would put the same question to you, however: Would you be
hurt/disgusted if you found out that someone like, say, Amon Tobin (a
totally hypothetical example), made some sweet money on the side doing
interstitial jingles for the nightly news? Frankly, I'd be a little pleased
if I found that out. A little sad that he can't spend all his time on his
art, but hey, maybe he likes doing work for ads.
quoted 4 lines Again, I think that's a UK thing - but even here in> > Again, I think that's a UK thing - but even here in
> > the US, I think I hear
> > four to five D'n'b or IDM-style background tunes per
> > hour.
God, if I hear another "UK is cooler than the US" comment I'm gonna puke.
From now on this thread's off-list for me, I promise.
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