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What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? Maybe: 1993 - 2003 What do you think? Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” or maybe “It was never a proper genre name anyway." Adrien Capozzi https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/

1993 - whenever hapbt dies Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 26 lines "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr"

> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" > > - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - > > > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote: > > > > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? > > Maybe: > > > > 1993 - 2003 > > > > What do you think? > > > > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? > > > > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” > > or maybe > > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." > > > > > > > > Adrien Capozzi > > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ > > > >

I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous decade myself : 1983-1993. The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 36 lines 1993 - whenever hapbt dies

> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote: > >> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >> >> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >> >> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote: >> > >> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >> > Maybe: >> > >> > 1993 - 2003 >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >> > >> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >> > or maybe >> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >> > >> > >> > >> > Adrien Capozzi >> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >> > >> >>

"1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a smidgen less conceited" On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 42 lines I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous

> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous > decade myself : 1983-1993. > The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote: >> >>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>> >>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>> >>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>> > Maybe: >>> > >>> > 1993 - 2003 >>> > >>> > What do you think? >>> > >>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>> > >>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>> > or maybe >>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Adrien Capozzi >>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>> > >>> >>>

the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music even there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now have their whole own sections / genres Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 48 lines "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a

> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a > smidgen less conceited" > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous >> decade myself : 1983-1993. >> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote: >>> >>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>> >>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>> >>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>> > Maybe: >>>> > >>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>> > >>>> > What do you think? >>>> > >>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>> > >>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>> > or maybe >>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>> > >>>> >>>>

I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm I even hear bits of house music on BGM YMO- 'Music Plans' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 67 lines the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and

> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and > bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people > uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds > of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music > even > there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label > to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now > have their whole own sections / genres > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a >> smidgen less conceited" >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous >>> decade myself : 1983-1993. >>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>>> >>>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>>> >>>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>>> > Maybe: >>>>> > >>>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>>> > >>>>> > What do you think? >>>>> > >>>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>>> > >>>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>>> > or maybe >>>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>

I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. However, i also agree about *«glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of» *tools that wouldn't exist before, confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 76 lines I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm

> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm > I even hear bits of house music on BGM > > YMO- 'Music Plans' > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and >> bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people >> uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds >> of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music >> even >> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label >> to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now >> have their whole own sections / genres >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a >>> smidgen less conceited" >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the >>>> previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>>>> >>>>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>>>> >>>>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>>>> > Maybe: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > What do you think? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>>>> > or maybe >>>>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>

In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM sets that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the early 00s sometimes.

quoted 65 lines On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. > However, i also agree about «glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of» tools that wouldn't exist before, confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: > I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm > I even hear bits of house music on BGM > > YMO- 'Music Plans' > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music even > there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now have their whole own sections / genres > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> wrote: > "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a smidgen less conceited" > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: > I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous decade myself : 1983-1993. > The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > 1993 - whenever hapbt dies > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net <mailto:eric@explosive.net>> wrote: > "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" > > - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook <http://twitter.com/ahpook> - > > > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com <mailto:a@adrien75.com>> wrote: > > > > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? > > Maybe: > > > > 1993 - 2003 > > > > What do you think? > > > > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? > > > > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” > > or maybe > > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." > > > > > > > > Adrien Capozzi > > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ <https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/> > > >

gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play an obscure idm track in public nowadays On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 96 lines In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general

> In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general > more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM sets > that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the early > 00s sometimes. > > > > On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. > However, i also agree about *«glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp > techniques and all kinds of» *tools that wouldn't exist before, confering > their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >> >> YMO- 'Music Plans' >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and >>> bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people >>> uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds >>> of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music >>> even >>> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a >>> label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and >>> now have their whole own sections / genres >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a >>>> smidgen less conceited" >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth < >>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the >>>>> previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>>>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>>>>> > Maybe: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > What do you think? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>>>>> > or maybe >>>>>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>>>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole proliferation of the “sound” makes it a lot easier to toss some old DSP bangers in. The sound is kinda timeless too by now. I was just playing HAT’s DSP Holiday earlier today and it sounds just as fresh today as it did in 98.

quoted 75 lines On 11 Jun 2019, at 19:35, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 Jun 2019, at 19:35, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play an obscure idm track in public nowadays > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: > In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM sets that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the early 00s sometimes. > > > >> On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. >> However, i also agree about «glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of» tools that wouldn't exist before, confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >> >> YMO- 'Music Plans' >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg> >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music even >> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now have their whole own sections / genres >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> wrote: >> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a smidgen less conceited" >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net <mailto:eric@explosive.net>> wrote: >> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >> >> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook <http://twitter.com/ahpook> - >> >> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com <mailto:a@adrien75.com>> wrote: >> > >> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >> > Maybe: >> > >> > 1993 - 2003 >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >> > >> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >> > or maybe >> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >> > >> > >> > >> > Adrien Capozzi >> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ <https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/> >> > >> >

well let's see aphex, still around and releasing tracks... the orb, check... black dog, check.... boards of canada have been absent awhile but can hardly be called dead... [x] autechre still active [x] luke vibert [x] squarepusher (i mean, probably, damogen furies is hardly ancient) [x] b12 i mean if almost everyone on the original Artificial Intelligence compilation is still making music, can it be dead? Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 6:26 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 113 lines Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole

> Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole > proliferation of the “sound” makes it a lot easier to toss some old DSP > bangers in. The sound is kinda timeless too by now. I was just playing > HAT’s DSP Holiday earlier today and it sounds just as fresh today as it did > in 98. > > > On 11 Jun 2019, at 19:35, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play > an obscure idm track in public nowadays > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in >> general more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM >> sets that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the >> early 00s sometimes. >> >> >> >> On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. >> However, i also agree about *«glitches and retrigs, weird jittery >> max/msp techniques and all kinds of» *tools that wouldn't exist before, >> confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >>> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >>> >>> YMO- 'Music Plans' >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and >>>> bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people >>>> uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds >>>> of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music >>>> even >>>> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a >>>> label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and >>>> now have their whole own sections / genres >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just >>>>> a smidgen less conceited" >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth < >>>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the >>>>>> previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>>>>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>>>>>> > Maybe: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What do you think? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>>>>>> > or maybe >>>>>>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>>>>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >

Yeah the Rolling Stones are still active so I guess classic rock isn’t dead. Tbh I’m not even sure if that’s a valid analogy, I’m just being an ass. :) Adrien Capozzi https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/

quoted 98 lines On Jun 13, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 13, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > > well let's see > aphex, still around and releasing tracks... the orb, check... black dog, check.... boards of canada have been absent awhile but can hardly be called dead... > [x] autechre still active > [x] luke vibert > [x] squarepusher (i mean, probably, damogen furies is hardly ancient) > [x] b12 > > i mean if almost everyone on the original Artificial Intelligence compilation is still making music, can it be dead? > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 6:26 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole proliferation of the “sound” makes it a lot easier to toss some old DSP bangers in. The sound is kinda timeless too by now. I was just playing HAT’s DSP Holiday earlier today and it sounds just as fresh today as it did in 98. > > >> On 11 Jun 2019, at 19:35, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com <mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play an obscure idm track in public nowadays >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: >> In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM sets that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the early 00s sometimes. >> >> >> >>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. >>> However, i also agree about «glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of» tools that wouldn't exist before, confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >>> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >>> >>> YMO- 'Music Plans' >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music even >>> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now have their whole own sections / genres >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a smidgen less conceited" >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net <mailto:eric@explosive.net>> wrote: >>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>> >>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook <http://twitter.com/ahpook> - >>> >>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com <mailto:a@adrien75.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>> > Maybe: >>> > >>> > 1993 - 2003 >>> > >>> > What do you think? >>> > >>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>> > >>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>> > or maybe >>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Adrien Capozzi >>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ <https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/> >>> > >>> >> >

whenever the first person uttered the term EDM thanks, Jeffrey J Davis jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 thanks, Jeffrey J Davis jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 4:24 PM Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> wrote:

quoted 19 lines What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone?

> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? > Maybe: > > 1993 - 2003 > > What do you think? > > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? > > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” > or maybe > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." > > > > Adrien Capozzi > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >