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2001-05-14 18:12Lance McGannon [idm] idm-moderated list
├─ 2001-05-14 18:00Andrei Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
├─ 2001-05-14 18:01Motoko Denon Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
├─ 2001-05-14 21:53Guy Elden, Jr. Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
├─ 2001-05-15 01:15pink RE: [idm] idm-moderated list
│ ├─ 2001-05-15 01:20Greg Clow RE: [idm] idm-moderated list
│ ├─ 2001-05-15 01:24pink RE: [idm] idm-moderated list
│ └─ 2001-05-15 01:29EggyToast RE: [idm] idm-moderated list
├─ 2001-05-15 08:19Irene McC Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
│ └─ 2001-05-15 09:14henrik stromberg Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
└─ 2001-05-24 00:29skism RE: [idm] Squarepusher - Go Plastic
└─ 2001-05-24 01:54Andrei RE: [idm] Squarepusher - Go Plastic
2001-05-14 20:24John Counts Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
2001-05-14 20:30Paul Lloyd Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
2001-05-14 20:43Greg Malcolm Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
├─ 2001-05-14 20:45Motoko Denon Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
└─ 2001-05-14 21:56Guy Elden, Jr. Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
2001-05-14 21:01Panty Pryde Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
└─ 2001-05-14 21:08Motoko Denon Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
2001-05-14 22:58Stacy Masterson Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
2001-05-15 01:49[idm] Re: idm-moderated list
2001-05-15 03:18Yulia Matusov Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
2001-05-15 11:36Ross Balmer Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
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2001-05-14 18:12Lance McGannonIntroducing the IDM - MODERATED list... the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- whelming
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Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- whelming on the idm list for quite some time now so in an effort to develop a much on-topic & civil discussion forum i have just created an idm-moderated list using the YahooGroups list service. the list is MODERATED by me and it will be used exclusively for the discussion of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic and aimless threads will not be tolerated nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, sale lists, music production, hobbies outside music, etc. abuse of these rules could result in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be tyranical about these rules only to insure quality list content. List membership is by permission-only so i have to authorize all members. I will authorize all new members but this feature also allows me to block repeat offenders from resubbing to the list. This idm-m list was just created last night so it's still in the development stage. You can subscribe now but keep in mind it may go though a few changes in the next few weeks but only with the purpose of making the list better. So welcome all who want to talk about and find out about music and NOTHING BUT music. To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m btw: i will continue posting my messages to the full idm list so those of you who want a forum with more 'liberal' posting policies can remain on this list. -->-Lance---- PO Box 450715 Westlake, OH 44145 United States --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-14 18:00AndreiSo, only (objective) reviews and playlists ? Andrei On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lance McGannon wr
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So, only (objective) reviews and playlists ? Andrei On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lance McGannon wrote:
quoted 64 lines Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...> Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > whelming on the idm list for quite some > time now so in an effort to develop a > much on-topic & civil discussion forum > i have just created an idm-moderated list > using the YahooGroups list service. > > the list is MODERATED by me and it will > be used exclusively for the discussion > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > music, etc. abuse of these rules could result > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > tyranical about these rules only to insure > quality list content. > > List membership is by permission-only so > i have to authorize all members. I will > authorize all new members but this feature > also allows me to block repeat offenders > from resubbing to the list. > > This idm-m list was just created last > night so it's still in the development > stage. You can subscribe now but keep > in mind it may go though a few changes > in the next few weeks but only with the > purpose of making the list better. > > So welcome all who want to talk about > and find out about music and NOTHING BUT > music. > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > btw: i will continue posting my messages > to the full idm list so those of you > who want a forum with more 'liberal' > posting policies can remain on this > list. > > -->-Lance---- > PO Box 450715 > Westlake, OH 44145 > United States > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-14 18:01Motoko Denonfuck off!!!! --- Lance McGannon <lance@inaudible.com> wrote: > Introducing the IDM - MODER
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fuck off!!!! --- Lance McGannon <lance@inaudible.com> wrote:
quoted 61 lines Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...> Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > whelming on the idm list for quite some > time now so in an effort to develop a > much on-topic & civil discussion forum > i have just created an idm-moderated list > using the YahooGroups list service. > > the list is MODERATED by me and it will > be used exclusively for the discussion > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > music, etc. abuse of these rules could result > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > tyranical about these rules only to insure > quality list content. > > List membership is by permission-only so > i have to authorize all members. I will > authorize all new members but this feature > also allows me to block repeat offenders > from resubbing to the list. > > This idm-m list was just created last > night so it's still in the development > stage. You can subscribe now but keep > in mind it may go though a few changes > in the next few weeks but only with the > purpose of making the list better. > > So welcome all who want to talk about > and find out about music and NOTHING BUT > music. > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > btw: i will continue posting my messages > to the full idm list so those of you > who want a forum with more 'liberal' > posting policies can remain on this > list. > > -->-Lance---- > PO Box 450715 > Westlake, OH 44145 > United States > > > > > > > > >
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2001-05-14 21:53Guy Elden, Jr.Goodie goodie goodie! I can't wait for the content to return to the IDM list! No more filt
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Goodie goodie goodie! I can't wait for the content to return to the IDM list! No more filtering through record reviews, intelligent discussion about music, or intellectual debate over the future of the genre, just to get to the GOOD STUFF!!! Blatant idol worship of our GOD, RICHARD D. JAMEZNIZ.
quoted 64 lines Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...> Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > whelming on the idm list for quite some > time now so in an effort to develop a > much on-topic & civil discussion forum > i have just created an idm-moderated list > using the YahooGroups list service. > > the list is MODERATED by me and it will > be used exclusively for the discussion > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > music, etc. abuse of these rules could result > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > tyranical about these rules only to insure > quality list content. > > List membership is by permission-only so > i have to authorize all members. I will > authorize all new members but this feature > also allows me to block repeat offenders > from resubbing to the list. > > This idm-m list was just created last > night so it's still in the development > stage. You can subscribe now but keep > in mind it may go though a few changes > in the next few weeks but only with the > purpose of making the list better. > > So welcome all who want to talk about > and find out about music and NOTHING BUT > music. > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > btw: i will continue posting my messages > to the full idm list so those of you > who want a forum with more 'liberal' > posting policies can remain on this > list. > > -->-Lance---- > PO Box 450715 > Westlake, OH 44145 > United States > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-15 01:15pink> Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > http:/
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quoted 3 lines Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...> Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m
I've (un)subscribed to IDM numerous times do to the varying quality of the discussion/mail throughput and I applaud your efforts to create order where chaos prevails. but, I just can't stand using web based discussion boards. Other than supporting Yahoo, I don't like seeing ads and downloading 60k of html/images every time I want to see more information. not to mention that web browsers aren't very well suited to sifting through/organizing discussion data. IDM-m on a majordomo type system you say? well now i'm starting to get interested... PRIMUS SUCKS! pink --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-15 01:20Greg ClowAt 09:15 PM 5/14/01, pink wrote: > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > To subscr
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At 09:15 PM 5/14/01, pink wrote:
quoted 8 lines Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...> > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > >but, I just can't stand using web based discussion boards. Other than >supporting Yahoo, I don't like seeing ads and downloading 60k of html/images >every time I want to see more information. not to mention that web browsers >aren't very well suited to sifting through/organizing discussion data.
You don't have to read Yahoo Groups on the website, you can choose to have it delivered as email just like any other mailing list. You can even choose single messages or digest mode. Perhaps Yahoo Groups didn't offer this in the past, but when they took over eGroups a couple of months ago, the mailing list functionality came over as well. Greg --- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-15 01:24pinklet me chastise myself - yahoo is cool enough to send you discussion updates via email - u
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let me chastise myself - yahoo is cool enough to send you discussion updates via email - upon a little more investigation i found my bad, sorry ;) i stand corrected, pink VIVA LA IDM-M!
quoted 34 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: pink [mailto:root@pinkwerks.com] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:15 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] idm-moderated list > > > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > I've (un)subscribed to IDM numerous times do to the varying quality of the > discussion/mail throughput and I applaud your efforts to create > order where > chaos prevails. > > but, I just can't stand using web based discussion boards. Other than > supporting Yahoo, I don't like seeing ads and downloading 60k of > html/images > every time I want to see more information. not to mention that > web browsers > aren't very well suited to sifting through/organizing discussion data. > IDM-m on a majordomo type system you say? well now i'm starting to get > interested... > > PRIMUS SUCKS! > pink > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-15 01:29EggyToastAt 06:15 PM 5/14/2001 -0700, pink wrote: > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > T
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At 06:15 PM 5/14/2001 -0700, pink wrote:
quoted 14 lines Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...> > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > >I've (un)subscribed to IDM numerous times do to the varying quality of the >discussion/mail throughput and I applaud your efforts to create order where >chaos prevails. > >but, I just can't stand using web based discussion boards. Other than >supporting Yahoo, I don't like seeing ads and downloading 60k of html/images >every time I want to see more information. not to mention that web browsers >aren't very well suited to sifting through/organizing discussion data. >IDM-m on a majordomo type system you say? well now i'm starting to get >interested...
umm.. it's on yahoo-groups, which posts messages on the web for those interested, but sends mail out to everyone else. you don't even have to be a part of yahoo to subscribe. ------- eggytoast.com ------- now updated daily --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-15 08:19Irene McCOn 14 May 2001, at 13:12, Lance McGannon wrote: > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: GR
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On 14 May 2001, at 13:12, Lance McGannon wrote:
quoted 1 line To subscribe to the idm-m list visit:> To subscribe to the idm-m list visit:
GRRR! Just to let you know, that I tried to log in, only to discover that someone has already used the name "SUBSTAR". So, if anybody mails under that name *it is not me* - it is a Substandard Substar Imitator!! I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-15 09:14henrik strombergAt 10.19 +0200 01-05-15, Irene McC wrote: >GRRR! Just to let you know, that I tried to log
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At 10.19 +0200 01-05-15, Irene McC wrote:
quoted 2 lines GRRR! Just to let you know, that I tried to log in, only to discover>GRRR! Just to let you know, that I tried to log in, only to discover >that someone has already used the name "SUBSTAR".
irene, your login name/yahoo ID is not the name you will be posting under. you use your regular e-mail address, just like here on hyperreal. the yahoo ID and password is only used for subscribe/unsubscribe and your preferences. hs -- _____________________ sense is never common --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-24 00:29skismYeah... on the surface it seems to have a lot in common with big loada, i.e. trad. dnb bre
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Yeah... on the surface it seems to have a lot in common with big loada, i.e. trad. dnb breaks & mental programming... but dig deeper and i think it has much more in common with MIRON... for one thing he seems to be controlling allot from his bass - he's said he uses some kind of MIDI pick up for it, either that or just bass through loads of effects, the bass is most evident on Boneville Occident and Plaistow Flex Out... also there are lots of nice small jazzy touches here and there like at the end of Go Plastic, and some of the tracks have a very strong jazz edge to them, like The Exploding Psychology (the nearest to something off MIRON or Budokhan), Plaistow Flex Out and Boneville Occident. Big Loada is probably as equally focused on the synth's as it is on the breaks, and that's one thing that's missing here... the melody remains buried under the breaks for the most part, and the synth sounds are fairly uninteresting... but overall i think they work well due to the complexity of the tracks. anyway... its really excellent, it has as much depth - if not more - then his jazz shit but coming from a more traditional (for him) direction.... it mixes all the good things from his previous work very well.... also nice to see some raga on there.... it's definitely a grower though, so if you don't get it on the first few listens, stick with it.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-24 01:54AndreiOn Thu, 24 May 2001, skism wrote: > Yeah... on the surface it seems to have a lot in commo
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quoted 8 lines Yeah... on the surface it seems to have a lot in common> Yeah... on the surface it seems to have a lot in common > with big loada, i.e. trad. dnb breaks & mental programming... > but dig deeper and i think it has much more in common with MIRON... > > for one thing he seems to be controlling allot from his > bass - he's said he uses some kind of MIDI pick up for it, > either that or just bass through loads of effects, the bass > is most evident on Boneville Occident and Plaistow Flex Out...
Well, if he _is_ controlling any MIDI stuff with his bass it's certainly nothing that you can tell from just listening to the music. It WOULD be interesting to find out if some of the more chaotic, free time moments were done using that approach. But I don't see how that would make it similar to MIRON !? There is a lot of processed bass though, which has been a constant element in his tracks.
quoted 5 lines also there are lots of nice small jazzy touches here and there> also there are lots of nice small jazzy touches here and there > like at the end of Go Plastic, and some of the tracks have > a very strong jazz edge to them, like The Exploding Psychology > (the nearest to something off MIRON or Budokhan), Plaistow Flex Out > and Boneville Occident.
Well, from the beginning his tracks have been full of bass and jazzy touches (check out "Smedleys Melody" on FMWT for a really overt example). Those early 12"s on Spymania are very fusiony. Imo, if Go Plastic has similarities to MIRON it's more with those concrete type tracks on that album rather than the fusiony ones. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-14 20:24John CountsThis is a perfect example of why Lance's new move is a much welcomed and necessary change.
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This is a perfect example of why Lance's new move is a much welcomed and necessary change. I've been on the list for about four years and can remember when it was a resevoir of good info. Whoever this person is represents the overwhelming glut of new members who have essentially spoiled the once intimate and focused discussion forum; not unlike how the popular media today is exploiting electronic music. I am all for "the more, the merrier" and this is not a flame to newer members either, but 635 messages a day? This is ridiculous. Kudos to you, Lance John "The Underground...Small but Serious" -From Hrvatski's visuals at Klangkrieg --- Motoko Denon <idmgirl2501@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 66 lines fuck off!!!!> fuck off!!!! > > > --- Lance McGannon <lance@inaudible.com> wrote: > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > > whelming on the idm list for quite some > > time now so in an effort to develop a > > much on-topic & civil discussion forum > > i have just created an idm-moderated list > > using the YahooGroups list service. > > > > the list is MODERATED by me and it will > > be used exclusively for the discussion > > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > > downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic > > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > > music, etc. abuse of these rules could result > > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > > tyranical about these rules only to insure > > quality list content. > > > > List membership is by permission-only so > > i have to authorize all members. I will > > authorize all new members but this feature > > also allows me to block repeat offenders > > from resubbing to the list. > > > > This idm-m list was just created last > > night so it's still in the development > > stage. You can subscribe now but keep > > in mind it may go though a few changes > > in the next few weeks but only with the > > purpose of making the list better. > > > > So welcome all who want to talk about > > and find out about music and NOTHING BUT > > music. > > > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > > > btw: i will continue posting my messages > > to the full idm list so those of you > > who want a forum with more 'liberal' > > posting policies can remain on this > > list. > > > > -->-Lance---- > > PO Box 450715 > > Westlake, OH 44145 > > United States > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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2001-05-14 20:30Paul Lloyd> fuck off!!!! > steady on young lady, lance is only thinking of the sanity of the people
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> fuck off!!!! > steady on young lady, lance is only thinking of the sanity of the people who have been here a long time. believe me, if you'd been around over the last year or two, you would be worshipping at his feet and chanting "we are not worthy". well...that is going a bit far...but you'd thank him at least. :) paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-14 20:43Greg Malcolmi second this...this list has gone down in quality dramatically. perhaps 25% of the conten
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i second this...this list has gone down in quality dramatically. perhaps 25% of the content is actually relevent, the rest falls between just plain ignorant and "let me out intellectualize you" type responses to posts that were irrelevant in the first place, i know you know what i mean. i don't acually get too much info on here, i just keep subscribed for the occasional laugh, but it really shouldn't be like that. flame away if you must, it'll at least prove these last two points. GM
quoted 121 lines From: John Counts <polycyclicism@yahoo.com>>From: John Counts <polycyclicism@yahoo.com> >To: Motoko Denon <idmgirl2501@yahoo.com>, lance@inaudible.com, >idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] idm-moderated list >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:46 -0700 (PDT) > > This is a perfect example of why Lance's new move is >a much welcomed and necessary change. I've been on the >list for about four years and can remember when it was >a resevoir of good info. Whoever this person is >represents the overwhelming glut of new members who >have essentially spoiled the once intimate and focused >discussion forum; not unlike how the popular media >today is exploiting electronic music. I am all for >"the more, the merrier" and this is not a flame to >newer members either, but 635 messages a day? This is >ridiculous. Kudos to you, Lance > John > >"The Underground...Small but Serious" > -From Hrvatski's visuals at Klangkrieg >--- Motoko Denon <idmgirl2501@yahoo.com> wrote: > > fuck off!!!! > > > > > > --- Lance McGannon <lance@inaudible.com> wrote: > > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > > > > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > > > whelming on the idm list for quite some > > > time now so in an effort to develop a > > > much on-topic & civil discussion forum > > > i have just created an idm-moderated list > > > using the YahooGroups list service. > > > > > > the list is MODERATED by me and it will > > > be used exclusively for the discussion > > > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > > > downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic > > > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > > > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > > > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > > > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > > > music, etc. abuse of these rules could result > > > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > > > tyranical about these rules only to insure > > > quality list content. > > > > > > List membership is by permission-only so > > > i have to authorize all members. I will > > > authorize all new members but this feature > > > also allows me to block repeat offenders > > > from resubbing to the list. > > > > > > This idm-m list was just created last > > > night so it's still in the development > > > stage. You can subscribe now but keep > > > in mind it may go though a few changes > > > in the next few weeks but only with the > > > purpose of making the list better. > > > > > > So welcome all who want to talk about > > > and find out about music and NOTHING BUT > > > music. > > > > > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > > > > > btw: i will continue posting my messages > > > to the full idm list so those of you > > > who want a forum with more 'liberal' > > > posting policies can remain on this > > > list. > > > > > > -->-Lance---- > > > PO Box 450715 > > > Westlake, OH 44145 > > > United States > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-14 20:45Motoko Denon> really? > > will > > > > be used exclusively for the discussion > > > > of idm, ambient,
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quoted 11 lines really?> really? > > will > > > > be used exclusively for the discussion > > > > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > > > > downtempo, & experimental music. > > what about all other genres? > > I was under the impression idm or braindance is the > genre that encompasses the best elements of all
genres
quoted 10 lines _rephlex.com> _rephlex.com > > Off-topic > > > > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > > > > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > > > > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > > > > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > > > > music, etc. > > Another wonderful thing about the list is
opportunity
quoted 31 lines to share, network and be introduced to artists ,> to share, network and be introduced to artists , > labels, dj's---therefore to discourage promotion is > futile. > > abuse of these rules could result > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > tyranical about these rules only to insure > quality list content. > > "tyranical"----this scares me > I understand how annoying spamming is, but all > messages are listed by subjects if you are not > interested, (don't read it)..... > > with more 'liberal' > posting policies can remain on this list. > > > yes, thank_you... > > :) > > I suggested a netscape newsgroup, where you can also > post have more control over the sorting of > messages...ect.. we could still have a security > password and all those good things. > > but what's wrong w. this list ? > ultimately there are 1000's of people subcribed and > lurking' continuously over the years,...why move > anywhere else?
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2001-05-14 21:56Guy Elden, Jr.I do not favor your child species' language. > i second this...this list has gone down in
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I do not favor your child species' language.
quoted 143 lines i second this...this list has gone down in quality dramatically. perhaps 25%> i second this...this list has gone down in quality dramatically. perhaps 25% > of the content is actually relevent, the rest falls between just plain > ignorant and "let me out intellectualize you" type responses to posts that > were irrelevant in the first place, i know you know what i mean. > > i don't acually get too much info on here, i just keep subscribed for the > occasional laugh, but it really shouldn't be like that. > > flame away if you must, it'll at least prove these last two points. > > GM > > > >From: John Counts <polycyclicism@yahoo.com> > >To: Motoko Denon <idmgirl2501@yahoo.com>, lance@inaudible.com, > >idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] idm-moderated list > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:46 -0700 (PDT) > > > > This is a perfect example of why Lance's new move is > >a much welcomed and necessary change. I've been on the > >list for about four years and can remember when it was > >a resevoir of good info. Whoever this person is > >represents the overwhelming glut of new members who > >have essentially spoiled the once intimate and focused > >discussion forum; not unlike how the popular media > >today is exploiting electronic music. I am all for > >"the more, the merrier" and this is not a flame to > >newer members either, but 635 messages a day? This is > >ridiculous. Kudos to you, Lance > > John > > > >"The Underground...Small but Serious" > > -From Hrvatski's visuals at Klangkrieg > >--- Motoko Denon <idmgirl2501@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > fuck off!!!! > > > > > > > > > --- Lance McGannon <lance@inaudible.com> wrote: > > > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > > > > > > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > > > > whelming on the idm list for quite some > > > > time now so in an effort to develop a > > > > much on-topic & civil discussion forum > > > > i have just created an idm-moderated list > > > > using the YahooGroups list service. > > > > > > > > the list is MODERATED by me and it will > > > > be used exclusively for the discussion > > > > of idm, ambient, techno, dub, electronica, > > > > downtempo, & experimental music. Off-topic > > > > and aimless threads will not be tolerated > > > > nor will discussions about mp3s, bootlegging, > > > > what is idm, fanboy worship, self promotions, > > > > sale lists, music production, hobbies outside > > > > music, etc. abuse of these rules could result > > > > in expulsion from the idm-m list. i will be > > > > tyranical about these rules only to insure > > > > quality list content. > > > > > > > > List membership is by permission-only so > > > > i have to authorize all members. I will > > > > authorize all new members but this feature > > > > also allows me to block repeat offenders > > > > from resubbing to the list. > > > > > > > > This idm-m list was just created last > > > > night so it's still in the development > > > > stage. You can subscribe now but keep > > > > in mind it may go though a few changes > > > > in the next few weeks but only with the > > > > purpose of making the list better. > > > > > > > > So welcome all who want to talk about > > > > and find out about music and NOTHING BUT > > > > music. > > > > > > > > To subscribe to the idm-m list visit: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idm-m > > > > > > > > btw: i will continue posting my messages > > > > to the full idm list so those of you > > > > who want a forum with more 'liberal' > > > > posting policies can remain on this > > > > list. > > > > > > > > -->-Lance---- > > > > PO Box 450715 > > > > Westlake, OH 44145 > > > > United States > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > > > prices > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-14 21:01Panty Pryde> > > > but what's wrong w. this list ? ignorant one liner posts such as "fuck off" > > ul
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quoted 2 lines but what's wrong w. this list ?> > > > but what's wrong w. this list ?
ignorant one liner posts such as "fuck off"
quoted 2 lines ultimately there are 1000's of people subcribed and> > ultimately there are 1000's of people subcribed and > > lurking' continuously over the years,..
quoted 2 lines .why move anywhere else?>.why move anywhere else? > >
Options.I don't recall anyone saying this list would be shut down. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-14 21:08Motoko Denon.......I don't beileve anyone w. a name like "Panty Pryde" should be in any position to ca
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.......I don't beileve anyone w. a name like "Panty Pryde" should be in any position to call anybody ignorant and if you are so eager to leave, just do it, don't let me stop you.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-14 22:58Stacy Mastersonahhhh thank you....now i can finally unsub from this crappy list. >Introducing the IDM - M
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ahhhh thank you....now i can finally unsub from this crappy list.
quoted 1 line Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...>Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list...
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2001-05-15 01:49info@noiseloop.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:12:24 -0500 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: Lance McGannon <la
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quoted 11 lines Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:12:24 -0500> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:12:24 -0500 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: Lance McGannon <lance@inaudible.com> > Subject: idm-moderated list > Message-ID: <jUsT.aNoTheR.mEsSaGe.iD.9898615381504@www.inaudible.com> > > Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > > the signal-to-noise ratio has been over- > whelming on the idm list for quite some > time now
<> It's one of the reasons we started noiseloop.com. We were just getting so many messages on this list that a lot of our friends unsubbed. So we set it up to keep free input but channel the noise. The stories are moderated but the follow on comments aren't (you can filter them though) - seems a reasonable compromise. At the moment anybody can post also. So far we are mainly getting event listings. We'll stick forums on there at some point - seems like a good place to do for sale and wanted lists without having to repeat them every other week. If you've got any ideas how we can improve it let us know. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-15 03:18Yulia MatusovAwwwwwwwww. I want to be on the list that all the cool people are on! Come on, guys <snort
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Awwwwwwwww. I want to be on the list that all the cool people are on! Come on, guys <snort, snort>... where ya all going? How are the musically or financially challenged of us gonna keep up? BTW... I found out that I don't have to click and open all the emails... only the ones i am interested in... so what's all the complainin' about? And... with each email there are at least 98174239182734928174 complaints about it. Good discussions though for the most part, I really do enjoy them...
quoted 20 lines From: "Stacy Masterson" <idm_list@hotmail.com>>From: "Stacy Masterson" <idm_list@hotmail.com> >To: lance@inaudible.com, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] idm-moderated list >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:58:14 -0000 > > >ahhhh thank you....now i can finally unsub from this crappy >list. > > >>Introducing the IDM - MODERATED list... > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-15 11:36Ross Balmer----- Original Message ----- From: "Yulia Matusov" <ulia5@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Yulia Matusov" <ulia5@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:18 AM Subject: Re: [idm] idm-moderated list
quoted 4 lines Awwwwwwwww.> Awwwwwwwww. > I want to be on the list that all the cool people are on! Come on, guys > <snort, snort>... where ya all going? How are the musically or financially > challenged of us gonna keep up?
Aw, I'm sure Lance will let you join the new list Yulia, I wouldn't worry. :-)
quoted 5 lines BTW... I found out that I don't have to click and open all the emails...> BTW... I found out that I don't have to click and open all the emails... > only the ones i am interested in... so what's all the complainin' about? > And... with each email there are at least 98174239182734928174 complaints > about it. Good discussions though for the most part, I really do enjoy > them...
For what it's worth, I agree. Sure I want to be on the new list but I'm not going to unsub from this one. My policy has always been to simply not read all the annoying threads. I don't even bother to delete them, that's how little I care about them. I'm on lots of mailing lists, ambient, global techno, tech-house, c8, 313. This is the one I read most and post to most though. I really don't think it's as bad as people make out. Ross. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org